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CATHERINE
CALLAWAY, Anchor: Here now with Israeli reaction to the bus
bombing is Itamar Rabinovich, Israel's Ambassador to the
U.S., and he is joining us from Washington. Thanks for being
with us, this morning.
ITAMAR RABINOVICH, Israeli Ambassador to U.S.: Thank you.
CATHERINE CALLAWAY: I'm sure you just heard Hassan Abdul
Haman's [sp] comments just moments ago saying that Shimon
Peres, his actions were actually unfortunate, taking action
along the border and I believe he also said that Peres was
acting in a panic. Your reaction to that?
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: I think it's a regrettable reaction to
Prime Minister Peres. Prime Minister Peres has been reacting
a week later after the second consecutive attack on a bus in
Jerusalem, killing more than 50 Israelis. He did not take
these measures after the first attack on the Israeli bus. He
took it after a second. It's now past midnight, and very
close to midnight, and definitely it's not a panicky
reaction. It's an attempt to look directly at what is a
mortal danger to the fabric of Israeli society and to the
whole peace process.
CATHERINE CALLAWAY: I could tell you do seem quite
exasperated about this Mr. Rabinovich. Can you tell me
exactly how these measures will be implemented? Can you
explore them a little bit for us? And, you know, are they
going to work? When you're talking about suicide missions,
that would seem almost impossible to control.
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: Yeah, let me say something about suicide.
Mr. Abdul Haman said earlier, what can you do about a single
person who takes five or ten pounds of explosives and blows
themselves to pieces with the others? Indeed, it is very
difficult to respond to that, but we have to remember one
thing. These individuals are not acting alone. There is a
whole supply network, there is a network of preachers who
inside them poison the minds of the young men who go and do
that, there's a whole support network. And what needs to be
done is to address this whole network and then you are not
looking for a single individual in a haystack, but you are
looking at a network that is easier to identify and to fight
against.
CATHERINE CALLAWAY: Shimon Peres was actually booed this
morning when he toured the scene. What position- he's in a
precarious situation here. What can he do next?
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: We're all faced with a dilemma. We are
engaged in this peace process because we believe that the
only way in which Israelis and Arabs can live is in peace.
The only solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict is peaceful.
And in the long run, this is obviously correct. In the
meantime, the average Israeli looks us in the eye and says,
'you're my government, I voted for you, or if I didn't vote
for you I still trust you, and I need your implementation on
the most basic needs of the human being including security
for me and my family. And what is the use of this peace
process for me if I cannot send my son, my daughter, my wife
on a bus in the middle of Jerusalem or in the middle of Tel
Aviv? If this is the case, sorry, I'm not interested.'
CATHERINE CALLAWAY: Your opinion of Palestinian President
Yasir Arafat's comments and the action that he is taking
now. Is this sufficient?
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: The comments are fine, the action is not
sufficient.
CATHERINE CALLAWAY: What would you like to see done?
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: I would simply like to see Chairman
Arafat do precisely what we have done. This morning, the
government of Israel declared an all-out war against the
organization of Hamas and against the phenomenon of
Palestinian fundamentalist terrorism. I think Chairman
Arafat, if he wants to remain Chairman Arafat, if he wants
this peace process to survive, he needs to do precisely the
same. He needs to define Hamas and all other manifestation
of terrorism as public enemies number one, and not just to
declare that but to draw the right practical conclusions
from this and conduct an all-out war. Terrorism is like
cancer. Either you deal with it and you cut it out, or it
eats you up. It's as plain as that.
CATHERINE CALLAWAY: And the next two weeks or the next few
weeks, rather, would seem very important on the future of
the peace process. Do you agree?
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: The next few weeks, the next few days,
because everything is in the balance now, and not just
decisive action but effective action is what we all are
required to produce right now.
CATHERINE CALLAWAY: Itamar Rabinovich, thank you very much
for joining us this morning.
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: Thank you for having me. |