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I look at the faces of some of the journalists who have
accompanied this process from the outset and some of whom
have been on the recent trip, I feel that I could always get
up and say that we have had constructive talks and serious
engagement, and this would be a short and safe way of
describing the status of the negotiations, but this is not
the purpose of the exercise.
At the same time, I think that the Washington Institute is
precisely the middle ground at which one can look at the
negotiations like this and in a somewhat reflective mood,
remember that we are not strictly in an academic seminar
dealing with a negotiation that is over or took place 20
years ago; we are looking at an ongoing negotiation. And of
course we'll discuss about -- discuss it in the flesh, but I
think the mode would be to look at this in some perspective
and to deal with it with some reflection and not to focus
exclusively on what exactly did the secretary of state
produce in his stay in Damascus.
There is a level of detail that we will not be able to get
into. I think we all understand that. I will try to be as
forthcoming as I can within the boundaries of diplomatic
decency and the rules of the game that we have all
established.
I vividly remember my previous presentation at the
Washington Institute seven months ago on the eve of the
resumption of the Syrian-Israeli negotiations in the summer
of 1995, a negotiation that then took the form of the second
meeting between the Syrian and Israeli chiefs of staff. The
purpose of my presentation then was to try to put that
negotiation and what could be expected in it and of it in
some perspective.
As you will recall, we had first established a format in
which delegations negotiated face-to-face in the State
Department building. The first Israeli delegation was formed
and led by the Likud government, and then there was a change
in the delegation after the election of the late Yitzhak
Rabin as the prime minister of Israel, and the new phase
began in August 1992.
We then shifted to smaller meetings between heads of
delegations in which Ambassador Muallem, Ambassador Allaf
and myself met in the winter of '94. There was an important
breakthrough in the negotiations in the spring of '94 when a
fresh lease on life was given to the negotiations. The
Israeli position was then couched in terms of the famous
table and its four legs. This led to another change in
format, the so-called "ambassador's challenge," in which
Ambassador Muallem and myself negotiated throughout the
summer and part of the fall of 1994. We then both reached a
conclusion and recommended to our governments, as well as to
our American partners, that we needed to talk to the
security component of the negotiation, and recommended that
high-ranking military officers be sent to Washington to try
to build a dialogue between the Israeli military and the
Syrian military as what we all thought was a prerequisite
for a successful negotiation.
This led to the first meeting of the chiefs of staff in
December of 1994. The Israeli chief of staff then was
General Ehud Barak, who is presently the Israeli foreign
minister. He met with General Shihabi, who still is the
Syrian chief of staff. That meeting had no follow-up. It was
followed by a Syrian- Israeli disagreement over the next
step and the meaning of the meeting and a hiatus in the
negotiations.
It then led us to negotiate a short paper called "The Aims
and Principles of the Security Arrangements," in which a
number of general principles that should govern a
Syrian-Israeli agreement on security arrangements was agreed
upon between us, and it served as the foundation for the
second meeting of the chiefs of staff in which the same
General Shihabi, but no longer General Barak, but General
Shahak, participated on the Israeli side. That was the event
ahead of which I came and addressed this forum.
We all felt at the time, certainly the Israelis, that the
meeting between the two chiefs of staff was actually a good
meeting. No major agreement was reached in the meeting, but
our feeling at the end of the meeting was that both chiefs
of staff identified in each other partners and that the
ground was laid for further work. This clearly was not the
feeling of President Assad, who defined the meeting
subsequently as an unsuccessful meeting. The trip by the
U.S. peace team in the region that followed the meeting
ended with an impasse, and it led both President Assad and
the late Prime Minister Rabin to what I can define as a
crisis in confidence. Both suspected each other of not
really seeking an agreement before the Israeli elections of
1996. And that remained the case for several months.
In the weeks and days preceding the assassination of Prime
Minister Rabin, an attempt was afoot to renew the
negotiations that I believe would have been successful, at
least technically, mainly in setting up a new mechanism for
negotiations on the security issues. But that effort was of
course cut short, like so many other things, by the
assassination.
We now are in the midst of an entirely new phase defined by
the assassination and by the formation of a new Israeli
government, headed by Prime Minister Peres, but not just by
this. I think it would be erroneous to define the present
phase as formed only by the assassination or by the
formation of the new Israeli government. There are at least
two other elements at work, and let me say something about
them.
The first is the time element, as an objective factor at
work. We are in 1996. It was one thing to speak about the
elections of 1996 -- let me emphasize, both in the United
States and in Israel from the certain perspective at 1994
and 1993 before this, but time did go by, and as we have
entered the year of 1996, this is something that everybody
has to figure into his or her calculus. I don't think I want
to speculate at any length on how that calculus operates,
either on the Israeli or on the Syrian side, but let us
accept it as a fact, and an important one, that this is a
factor at work and it has affected and does affect the
negotiations.
Secondly, events in progress on other tracks of the
Arab-Israeli peace process. The Syrian-Israeli track has
never been conducted in isolation from other tracks, and
events on other tracks have affected the negotiation --
first and foremost, the conclusion at the end of September
of Oslo II, the Israeli-Palestinian agreement. We are on the
eve of the Palestinian elections, and on the whole, these
developments have had a very beneficial effect on the
Syrian-Israeli negotiations. They facilitated the
development of the concept of comprehensiveness, on which I
will dwell later, and they have created a better atmosphere
for the negotiations. They have freed the Israeli calendar
or agenda from the need to deal in any great detail with
other tracks, and it has enabled us to focus on the Syrian
track.
The fact that there was a very successful economic regional
conference in Amman last November, the fact that there is
another such conference planned for next November in Cairo
also facilitates the Israeli-Syrian negotiations. I will
elaborate on the comprehensiveness and the economic
dimension later.
So these are the two other variables that I wanted to
mention in creating the environment within which this new
phase in the negotiations is taking place. Let me now move
to that third variable with which I began, namely, the
formation of the Peres government and the new accent that
Prime Minister Peres has given to the Israeli approach to
the negotiations.
Let me liken it to a two-story structure. The first story:
we have the original package, the famous four legs of the
table, and let me mention them or recite them once more.
According to that original package, in order for an Israeli
deal to take place, four elements need to be addressed and
agreed upon: first is peace, second is withdrawal, third is
an agreement on security arrangements, and fourth a time
structure -- both the agreement on a time frame and an
agreement on the interface or the synchronization of the
element of withdrawal on the one hand and the element of
peace and security on the other. In the original scheme of
things, when conditions were to be met on all four, an
agreement was to be in place, or a breakthrough was to have
occurred.
Now, Prime Minister Peres was a partner to formulating the
original package, and of course he sustains the original
package, but he added several accents when he became prime
minister and when he began to lead these negotiations. One
element is an emphasis on comprehensiveness, the
comprehensiveness of the agreement or the linkage between
the Syrian-Israeli agreement and an end to the Arab-Israeli
conflict, or a virtual end, to use a well-liked term in this
town, a virtual end to the Arab-Israeli conflict. The prime
minister has made it very clear from the outset that this is
very much an important priority for him.
Secondly, an emphasis on the quality of peace and an
explicit disinterest in a cold peace or in a formal or in a
hollow peace with Syria. Given the nature of the
Syrian-Israeli relationship and given its place in the
scheme of things -- this is not the first Arab-Israeli peace
treaty to be concluded when it is concluded; it's going to
be the third, and it's going to happen almost 20 years after
the first. And what was good and sufficient in 1979, in 1996
hopefully will be less than satisfactory. And therefore in
order to be attractive to us and acceptable to us, peace
between Israel and Syria needs to have a quality, quality as
distinct from being a formal or a cold or -- choose the term
-- a peace that is less than a qualitative peace.
Thirdly, an emphasis on the economic dimension of peace to
embed a new Syrian- Israeli relationship in an economic
context about which I will elaborate some later. The concept
or the notion is that in order to be durable, a Syrian-
Israeli peace, and durable not in terms of the next few
months or the next year, but durable over time, the
Syrian-Israeli peace will have to be embedded in a regional
economic package that will endow it with the richness and
durability that we all want it to have.
Fourthly, I know I have sent word and an appeal to the
United States to become even more active than it has been.
If previously we all -- or we both, Syrians and Israelis,
understood that this was, in a way, a three-way negotiation,
that parallel and not less significantly than its
negotiations with Israel, Syria was negotiating not peace,
but a new relationship with the United States, and the
United States therefore has been not just a cosponsor, but
in a way a partner, the third partner to these negotiations,
and has acted in certain ways that flowed from it, then the
prime minister has encouraged the United States to take an
even more active role in the negotiations.
This was accompanied by a number of signals to Syria in an
attempt to improve the atmosphere that were reciprocated or
responded to by the Syrians. There has been a response to
that, and let me speak briefly about the Syrian response to
this new Israeli initiative.
The response has taken the form, first, of a reciprocity in
atmosphere. Since November we have had better music, better
signals coming out of Damascus, both in reference, direct
reference to Israel and the peace process by the Syrian
principals and the Syrian media. To give one example, the
statement by the foreign minister, Farouk a-Shara, on the
premium that needs to be put on keeping peace and quiet on
the Lebanese-Israeli border was an excellent illustration of
a positive statement that was very well-received and
registered in Israel. That was the first component.
The second component was in a response and agreement to
resume the negotiations without preconditions and with
elements of flexibility in the form of those negotiations.
The Syrians decided not to raise the level of negotiators to
a political level, but to empower and increase the authority
of Ambassador Muallem and give him and his colleagues a
larger mandate both in terms of substance and in terms of
atmosphere.
Now, of course we can overdo the discussion on atmosphere,
but we have always known that in these negotiations, the
atmosphere was a part of substance, and as long as you do
not overplay it, you have to read it in substantive terms.
The fact of life was that until August 1993, there were no
handshakes between the Syrian negotiators and the Israelis,
and when a handshake was offered in 1993, that was a
substantive signal, and so forth and so forth. So this has
been part of the new mandate.
Thirdly, and that in operative terms may have been very
important, an agreement to deal for a while with the Israeli
side of the equation. We know the Syrian position: offer
Israel full peace for full withdrawal. Those who have been
with these negotiations for a while remember the argument ad
nauseam of "I need to hear first about full withdrawal," and
the Israeli response, "You don't begin a negotiation with
the bottom line." We found ways, of course, for dealing with
elements of the negotiation over time without that
commitment, but it has certainly hampered the progress of
the negotiations.
This time, consciously, the Syrians have agreed to deal
until now with the Israeli side of the equation, which is
full peace -- what does full peace mean? That's the question
we have always asked. We know exactly what full withdrawal
means. We've had a very easily definable geographical
expression. Full peace is more difficult to define, it's
take more time and more space. And there was a certain
disparity in that regard, and we have always asked to
redress that disparity.
The Syrians have agreed now to deal with full peace, with
the elements that from our point of view make up the notion
of full peace. Now, again, I wouldn't want for a moment to
create the illusion that the Syrians have changed, softened
or removed their insistence on full withdrawal, on their
definition of full withdrawal. And they remind in the course
of the negotiations every so often that this remains the
case. But in terms of facilitating the negotiations,
enabling to move forward, they are willing to deal now with
the Israeli issues: quality of peace, normalization, water.
If we will have presently an occasion or opportunity to
discuss the security arrangements, these are issues which
Israel wants to discuss, and we can discuss them.
So in terms of opening up the negotiations, the decision to
choose this formula, whereby the Syrians every so often and
persistently and consistently keep telling us that their
demand to full withdrawal remains as potent as it has always
been and that without it there will be no deal, but yet they
are willing to discuss the other issues for the time being,
has made a big difference in the negotiations and then, of
course, the issues themselves.
Let me now try to assess what has happened in the
negotiations thus far. That is to say, the preparatory trips
by the secretary of state and the peace deal, the first Wye
conference, and then the secretary's recent trip to the
region. There is one issue on which we have agreement, in
the sense that we see eye- to-eye; we have not written down
anything, so my use of the term agreement is limited by
this. We think we know that we agree on comprehensiveness
and on the components of comprehensiveness, but we have not
drafted anything. we have not written down anything, and we
all know very well that when you get down to writing and
drafting and you use precise language, you may discover that
you need to invest more work before you can say that you
have agreed.
But I think that we have agreement in the sense that I
described on comprehensiveness, namely, that indeed a
Syrian-Israeli agreement should lead to a comprehensive
Arab-Israeli settlement in two respects. One is that the
Syrian definition of comprehensiveness has since 1994 been
an agreement or agreements with Syria and with Lebanon.
Given the fact that there is an Israeli-Jordanian peace
treaty, there has been an Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty for
many years now and that the Palestinians signed with us Oslo
I and Oslo II, that means the treaties or agreements with
Syria and Lebanon would complete the circle of Israeli --
the end of Israel's conflict with the -- what used to be
known in older terminology -- the confrontation states.
Let's call it the immediate neighbors or the immediate
cycle.
From the Syrian point of view, this would be it. It's been
stated already in 1994 and it's been more formalized now.
It's been stated, I think in the most eloquent and exquisite
fashion, by President Assad himself when he was in Cairo
last and spoke at a press conference and spoke at some
length about this Syrian view of comprehensiveness, or why
agreements with Syria and Lebanon would complete peace in
this cycle.
The second component of this is that Syria would be
supportive of other Arab states at that point recognizing
Israel or normalizing relations with Israel. We don't expect
all members of the Arab League to do that at that time, but
we very much hope that the majority of the members of the
Arab League will do it in that time. And it would be in that
respect, from our point of view, an end to the Arab-Israeli
conflict. That is to say, agreements with all the immediate
neighbors and recognition by the majority of the members of
the Arab states for us would constitute the end of the
conflict. That is one component of comprehensiveness.
The second component of comprehensiveness would mean no
linkage, that is to say. that an agreement between Israel
and Syria and between Israel and Lebanon would have its own
validity; it would not need to be endorsed by others. And
again, I think President Assad explained it very well in the
same press conference that I alluded to, and the foreign
minister. Farouk a-Shara did that in a couple of interviews
as well.
Thirdly is the regional and economic dimension of
comprehensiveness. Our assumption is that if all of this
materializes, or when all of this materializes, and Israel
will have peace and normal relations with a majority of the
Arab states, then two things can happen. One is we could
have a new politics in the region of the Middle East, and
the region could start operating as a region without the
elements of the Arab-Israeli conflict. And we have seen
beginnings of that. The Casablanca conference and the Amman
conference were two regional conferences, still limited by
the fact that we don't have a comprehensive agreement, but
they were very successful enterprises. The Cairo conference
convenes next November, and if we conclude before then,
could already be the beneficiary of a new state in the
region. There are other regional institutions that are
already in place through the multilateral track of the peace
process, and political relationships.
I call it the politics of access, not the politics of axes.
It doesn't mean that you have to translate the new state
into partnerships, alliances and access of one against the
other, but it will be access across the region to countries
that would want to formulate a new relationship.
We also believe that this should have an economic dimension
to it, that this should be the opportunity in which
resources could be mobilized and regional plans could be put
together in order to transform the region and to deal with
questions of water, overpopulation, under-resources,
underdevelopment, that are the real problems of the region
once the political issues are remedied, if not totally
resolved. And we hope that the United States would lead in
the international effort -- in which the United States would
be the leader and not a contributor. And it is here that I
rejoin the piece that appeared on the editorial page of "The
Washington Post," which I guess most of you have seen. It
referred to a report on Israel's state-run television.
Anybody who has the slightest familiarity with Israel and
the Israeli government and the Israeli media would smile at
the notion that even though public television in Israel is
public and is regulated by government law, that it really
listens to the government. This is not the East German
television of 10 years ago. And also, a report that appears
on Israeli television is just like any other media report.
It has its origins and its intentions and its validity, such
as it is.
So the figure of $12 billion that Israel would expect as a
package from the U.S. government, $7 billion for security,
$3 billion for some mysterious water projects, and $2
billion for rehabilitating the Israeli residents of the
Golan Heights, is taken out of thin air and bears no
relationship to what I have just described. When we speak
about the economic dimension of comprehensiveness, what we
have in mind is something reminiscent, but on a much larger
scale, of the donor effort to the Palestinians in which the
United States is the leader of the effort, but in terms of
its actual financial contribution, is not at all the largest
actor. It would be actually -- turn to the international
community and originate within the region, in Europe, in
Asia, and not necessarily just ask to contribute. Also to
invest and to take advantage of these opportunities to
transform the economy as well as the politics of the region.
This is the third component of comprehensiveness.
Now, all three components that I outlined are acceptable to
both Syria and Israel, and this is the area on which we have
had the greatest qualitative agreement and progress.
Secondly, we have come closer on the quality of peace. I
cannot get into details on the discussions with regard to
normalization and quality of peace, but certainly the
discussions have generated greater agreement and brought us
closer.
We have also agreed on the concept and methodology of the
negotiations. That is to say, we know that there now is a
negotiating core, or group of Syrians, Americans and
Israelis who are engaged in these negotiations, who all
believe in it, who know how they want to proceed and how to
build a concept that would lead us to resolve or come to
agreement on the elements that I mentioned before, the four
legs of the table and the new elements. And when we all feel
that we have reached a sufficient degree of agreement or
convergence on them, we can move from what we are doing now,
which you can term as pre- negotiations, to full-fledged
negotiations with large negotiating teams mainly engaged in
ceaseless negotiations without any interruptions until we
reach agreement.
[Let us take a look] at what we can expect when the
negotiations resume, at Wye and during the secretary's next
visit at some point in early February to build upon what
hopefully will be achieved at Wye. As you know, there will
be a military participation, that is to say, the core group
will be joined by senior officers from all three sides, and
the security issues will be laid again on the table without
preconditions from either side.
There will not be delegates to discuss economy -- or
economic issues, or water, but the issues of water and
economy are on the table and can be discussed by us, at
least conceptually. None of us is a water expert or an
economic expert in the full sense of the term, but we will
be authorized or empowered to discuss these issues and bring
them to the point at which experts could join us. I believe
that our Syrian colleagues will be given further mandate to
continue the discussion on the quality of peace and to take
advantage of what we have already agreed upon in order to
move the negotiations further.
These then will be the highlights or the focal points of the
negotiations. Two new elements, security and water -- not
new in the history of the negotiations, but new in the peace
phase of the negotiations, and I believe more innovative
discussions of the issues that we have already tackled,
mostly the quality of peace, normalization and the economic
dimension of the Syrian- Israeli peace.
Let me, before I conclude, emphasize a few other points that
derive mostly from my discussion of comprehensiveness. One
has to do with Lebanon. I mentioned Syria and Lebanon and
the Syrian insistence that an agreement with Lebanon needs
to happen together with an agreement with Syria, and that
together they would bring us to the point of
comprehensiveness.
We all recognize the fact that Syria enjoys a great deal of
influence in Lebanon, that there is a Syrian presence in
Lebanon. But we the Israelis regard and treat Lebanon as a
sovereign, independent, separate state, a state that has its
government, its place in the international arena and in the
region, and we would like to resume the negotiations with
Lebanon as soon as this becomes feasible. We negotiated with
the Lebanese when we used to negotiate through delegations.
That negotiation was interrupted, it was not renewed, and
from our point of view, we'd like to renew the negotiations
dealing with the government and the state of Lebanon, and
conclude an agreement with them.
We recognize the linkage between the Syrian and Lebanese
tracks and we'll not be blind to it. We also recognize the
fact that there are elements in Lebanon outside the control
of the Lebanese government. The Hizbullah is, in our
perception, an arm of the Iranian government and is not
under the control of the Lebanese government, and therefore
while we want to deal with the government of Lebanon and
reach and implement an agreement with Lebanon, of course we
have very important security interests, primarily in
southern Lebanon, and we will need and will make sure that
they are provided for, and that all elements, even those
that are not under control of the Lebanese government, will
be resolved to our satisfaction. There will have to be a
fine balance struck in this, and we hope that we're able to
achieve it.
Secondly, with regards to Turkey, there is a Turkish
dimension, a Turkish interest in all of this, in a number of
ways. First of all, if we speak about the new politics of
the region, Turkey looms large in the region; it's a very
important state. It has a European dimension, it has a
Middle Eastern dimension. It has dominated the region and
has been an important player in the region and continues to
be so. Israel has a very friendly bilateral relationship
with Turkey now. We have a good dialogue. We were visited by
the Turkish deputy foreign minister recently and had very
good talks with him. And ambassadors in Tel Aviv and in
Ankara talk to the governments and there is a dialogue that
goes on. We would like to keep that partnership.
There are two elements in which Turkey is mentioned in
addition to this general regional sense. One is the
Turkish-Syrian relationship. It is a bilateral relationship
and will have to be addressed and hopefully improved and
resolved by the Turks and the Syrians. It's not something
that we need to deal with. And then there is the water
issue. The name of Turkey is invoked very often when water
is mentioned. Turkey has been a partner to the Arab- Israeli
peace process through the multilateral track, and it is
fully aware of the work that has already been invested on
the question of water in the working group on water. And
Turkey has a point of view in all of this. And what we all
in all of these countries, in the United States, Syria,
Israel, the Turks and so forth, we'll have to do as the
discussion proceeds in the coming weeks and months, and
comprehensiveness and water are on the table, is that
Turkish point of view, Turkish interests integrated into the
equation that will have to emerge out of this.
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