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AMBASSADOR
ITAMAR RABINOVICH: Good afternoon. How are you?
Q: Fine; how are you?
AMB. RABINOVICH: Well, it's a, it's a refreshing change to
be in the other entrance, in another capacity, but I'm not
relinquishing the peace talks, and at least for a while I'll
be wearing these two, these two hats. This is obviously a
special day. I think it's, it's important and exciting at
any, any given time to begin a tenure in office as Israel's
ambassador to the United States, but this is an even more
crucial time.
There's a new administration in place, represents new ideas
and new approaches. I think that there is an underlying
compatibility of interests and outlooks between Israel and
the United States, but it needs to be redefined at given
junctures, and the inauguration of a new administration is
one such juncture.
And we are engaging in a dialogue with the administration to
talk about our bilateral relations, about our general view
of the world, and more specifically our view of the Middle
East and of the peace talks.
This in itself constitutes a very important and heavy
agenda. There is a whole host of bilateral issues, and our
immediate problems to deal with.
The administration and our government have successfully
engaged in trying to deal with the problem of the four
hundred. We are on the eve of important visits. Our foreign
minister is about to arrive in, in town early next week. The
secretary of state is about to leave for the Middle East.
The prime minister is about, about to come.
It is going to be a very busy season trying not just to
revive the peace process, but to lead it towards takeoff,
which I think is eminently feasible in the spring, and I
very much look forward to playing a role in all of this.
Q: Mr. Ambassador, traditionally ambassadors get a
honeymoon, and I hope you (inaudible).
How are you going to get around this problem of the
deportees because the -- Mr. Rabin's offer last week has not
been accepted by the deportees themselves or by the
Palestinians. So what happens next?
AMB. RABINOVICH: I think the whole point is that there is a
-- there's a fundamental error in trying to have the
expellees themselves decide what is acceptable and what is
not. These people were expelled precisely because they were
engaged in trying to sabotage, to derail the peace process.
And to make them the arbiters of what is acceptable and what
is not acceptable for renewing the peace process is almost
an oxymoron.
I think the important development of the past ten days, or
so, was an agreement reached by the U.S. administration and
by the Israel government which many have accepted with a
sigh of relief, and I think that this needs to be the beacon
that should guide us in our way out of this semi-crisis.
Q: Mr. Ambassador, have you heard anything in the last few
days through diplomatic, or other channels, that would tell
you that the Palestinians, not the deportees, but the
Palestinian representatives, like Mrs. Ashrawi, and people
in the PLO, are more willing to accept this formula that
you've devised for resolving the deportee problems?
AMB. RABINOVICH: I think there were indications that this
may very well be the case, but I think that the Palestinian
community needs to ask itself whether it is interested in
the peace process or not. I think it is. I think the
Palestinians came to Madrid, and came to the subsequent
rounds of negotiations because they saw important interests
to themselves in participating in this peace process, and I
think that any peace process and any subsequent peace
agreement must be based on a mutuality of enlightened
self-interests, and there has to be an enlightened Israeli
self-interest, there has to be an enlightened Palestinian,
Syrian, Jordanian, Lebanese self- interest, and there has to
be a meeting of the minds and of, of the interests.
I think, trying to take an objective look at it, that the
Palestinians have a stake in the, in the peace process, and
I think that it's, it's to their own good, and to
everybody's good, that they go by the main chance, and not
be derailed by those who precisely are seeking to derail the
peace process.
Q: Mr. Ambassador, the Syrians have been surprisingly
low-keyed on this whole deportee question. Have you all
spoken to them? What is their thinking on it?
AMB. RABINOVICH: No, we -- we have had no, no contact with
the Syrians in between rounds. This time, as, as on earlier
occasions, but obviously I monitor closely Syrian behavior.
The Syrians have made life difficult for us, sometimes,
during this crisis, but they have not been zealously active.
I think that what I said earlier with regard to the
Palestinians holds true with regard to the Syrians.
They are in the peace process because they see a prospect,
and they see something good developing for themselves in
this peace process. They want to remain in the peace
process. They understand that the, the problem of, of the
400 is not a problem of substance, but at the end of the day
a technical problem, and they probably have sufficient
political maturity as a state to understand that you do not
sacrifice substance for a technicality.
Q: Mr. Ambassador, forgive me if you've already answered
this question, I apologize because I'm late.
Prime Minister Rabin is reported this evening to have
criticized sharply the PLO, and saying that the PLO is an
obstacle now to the peace process.
What is your attitude at this point to any revision in the
U.S. relationship with the PLO in the context of its
relationship with Hamas?
AMB. RABINOVICH: We -- we don't think that any, any revision
of the, of U.S. relations with an attitude towards the PLO
is called for. We think that nothing of substance has
happened in the, in the past couple of months to, to warrant
such a change.
As I, as I've just said in response to another question, we
are dealing here with a technical question, not with a
question of substance, and I don't think that any
substantive changes are called for in the present context.
Q: Technically, Mr. Ambassador, do you think these talks can
resume with these expellees sitting on their (inaudible)?
AMB. RABINOVICH: Technically of course they can.
Politically, media-wise, I'd rather, I'd rather they did
not. And I think that the compromise struck between the U.S.
and Israel that I've mentioned before provides for ways of
enabling the deportees to, to leave that hill, but to go
back to a point I made earlier -- we have to bear in mind
that we are dealing with a group representing an
organization, representing a trend, seeking to derail the
talks.
And if they choose to remain on the hill, with a view to
obstructing the talks, then we should go on talking, albeit
it, or despite the fact that they may be on the hill.
Q: Well, I don't understand, then, how the compromise allows
them off the hill, because 100 can come back and the rest
will have their turn shortly, for a maximum of one year.
Now, if you wanted to start talks in April, then technically
these -- it would seem that 300 would still be on the hill.
AMB. RABINOVICH: Technically I know that other governments
in other countries are willing to offer facilities that
would enable them to, to leave that hill. But at the price
of, of repeating myself, they may choose for their own
political reasons to stay on that hill, and we should not
make the negotiations hostage to that choice of theirs.
Q: Mr. Ambassador, do you foresee any changes in the way the
talks are conducted when they resume, either in the rules
for their, for their participation in the talks, or in the
style of the way they conduct it?
AMB. RABINOVICH: No, I don't think so. I think that for the
time-being we will probably continue in the same vein, but
hopefully we'll have the breakthrough that we all are
waiting for and working for.
And once we have that there will be, and there could be
changes in, in format. Let us say that in the Syrian-Israel
track we are finally able at some point, in the spring or in
the summer to publish a statement of principles. We could
then establish working groups and it would be more working
groups talking to working groups rather than plenaries to
plenaries.
But this has yet to happen I should, I should say.
Q: (inaudible)
AMB. RABINOVICH: At this point I still don't know.
Let me take a few questions in Hebrew and --
Q: (inaudible)
AMB. RABINOVICH: Okay. One more in English and then we'll
switch to Hebrew.
Q: Mr. Ambassador, the Israeli press over the weekend
reported that the American government has asked the Israeli
government to tune down its, its demonstration of
satisfaction after the, the compromise that you have reached
on the -- is that true? Can you confirm those stories in
(inaudible)?
AMB. RABINOVICH: No, I'm, I'm not aware of any, of any such
request, nor must I say was there a -- was there a spree of
satisfaction. I think that we are dealing with a problem and
I think that with -- we have made some progress in dealing
with the problem. The problem is still with us as could be
evident from earlier questions, and what, what is of
interest to us is not to engage in mutual admiration or
mutual expressions of satisfaction, but to deal with the
problem.
Thank you.
Q: Thank you.
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