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Mr.
Chairman, Friends, Ladies and Gentlemen:
It's only seven months since my last appearance here but
there is one great difference: not so much in my views
actually, I hold on to most of the views I expressed then.
Nor really with regard to most of the issues they are still
with us. But, there is one great difference in December I
said in my opening statement: "Not holding at present I
stressed the "At present" any official position, I am
expressing my own views only". For some odd reason I can no
longer say thisÉ
And another thing, had I not known that Rob Satloff was a
friend, I obviously would have suspected him that, when he
called me in Israel and suggested this date, Monday the 27th
he knew what sort of date this might be for the peace
process and that he wanted to get me into hot waterÉNot
really, Rob but as you will all readily understand some
things I might have said, I won't say and besides, anything
I will say may be old hat by the time this lunch is over.
The good news right now is that Israel's Defense Minister
Mordechai and the PLO's Abu-Mazen have been meeting the day
before yesterday and that their teams will continue today
from the point where the Palestinians broke off the talks
last week. Israel has put some concrete proposals on the
table I hope they will bring about a successful conclusion.
(Prime Minister will bring to the Knesset in spite of
recess)
Nevertheless, in spite of what I said before, and at my own
risk, I am going to quote myself at least on some matters.
Last December I said the following:
"The main focus of attention these last few weeks has been
on the matter of the further redeployments, or more
specifically the second redeployment. But the very fact that
so much energy is being expended on what is, after all, a
side-issue and not just that, but a side issue which has all
the potential of making it more difficult to reach any sort
of solution on the main issue, namely "permanent status"
negotiations shows that everybody involved in this debate,
not least the United States, is still not sufficiently
focused on the really important things."
And I added:
"I personally am not very happy that we got into a situation
where the whole matter of the second redeployment has become
such a major bone of contention, especially between us and
America and maybe this could have been avoided but having
said that, what our decision says in essence is the
following: We shall withdraw from such and such areas on a
date to be determined provided the Palestinians fulfill till
then their commitments under the Hebron Agreement, which
they haven't done so far. That the redeployment will be in
tune with the Government's plan for the permanent settlement
is only elementary logic and I can only repeat that had
everybody agreed to proceed forthwith to the
"permanent-status" negotiations a lot of unnecessary trouble
and acrimony could perhaps have been avoided."
I then continued
"I thought at the time, and I haven't changed my opinion,
that Oslo was a mistake. Oslo gave rise to a lot of
unrealistic and unrealizable expectations, so that
wide-ranging discontent with its results was bound to
follow. One major fault was probably that of the illusion of
a supposedly new Middle East, but I won't go into that now.
Some of the thoughts behind Oslo agreements make for
interesting study-material. It wasn't only the
unsatisfactory way security matters were dealt with but the
idea of handing over a major part of the "territories"
without having addressed many of the really tough issues,
without peace agreement, before "permanent status" talks had
started will look to future historians as hard to explain.
There can be little doubt that the Israeli leadership of the
day probably reasoned that it, the Israeli leadership,
required an interim period in order to convince the Israelis
that the PLO had indeed finally recognized Israel's right to
exist, that the threat of terrorism and violence was over
once and for all, that the Palestinians had been able to
establish a political society with at least a semblance of
democracy in short that by the time we get to the difficult
and problematical concessions in the permanent status
Israelis would be convinced that those concessions were
justified, and that they were worth the risk because the
interim experience had proved that we had a worthy and
reliable partner and neighbor.
Well, with the very first bomb exploding in a Jerusalem bus,
and then the second, and then the third, and so on the house
of Oslo collapsed in the minds of most Israelis, though not
everyone was quick to admit it, even to himself.
I know that there could also be other interpretations; I
heard at least from one person who was close to the late
Yitzhak Rabin, that he, Rabin, being, after all, a person
who knew about security more than many other people, would
have rethought the process at some stage or another; but
there is no way to verify that.
I don't have the time to go in detail into the
disappointments and frustrations the Palestinians had in
connection with Oslo, especially in the economic field, with
the standard of living in parts of the "territories"
declining by 40-50 percent since Oslo, though in the last
year and especially in the past few months there have been
significant improvements but suffice it to say that many
Palestinians, hearing what their leaders told them at the
time of the signing of Oslo, must have believed that full
sovereignty with a capital in Jerusalem, a more or less
total Israeli withdrawal from the "territories", dismantling
the settlements perhaps even the "right of return" were
almost a "given" with the result that "Oslo" backfired also
on the Palestinian leadership."
One more thing about Oslo:
You know, in preparing this lecture, I looked up in the
Merriam-Webster Dictionary the word "devoted". It says
"devoted" means affectionate, fond, loving. I also looked up
"committed" it means being bound to a pledge. So if I were a
private person, and not the Ambassador, I would perhaps have
put it like that: I wouldn't say that my government is
devoted to the Oslo agreements that we are affectionate,
fond or loving towards it but I shall say unequivocally that
we are committed to it. I know that committed also means to
be consigned to an institution for the insane, but though
some on the Right may think so, this is not what I meanÉWe
comply with it and we expect the other side to comply with
it. There are things we don't like, many things in my view
but Oslo was democratically approved and is legally binding,
at least as long as the other side lives up to it. But it is
also our right and duty, as a government, to correct the
errors of the past in order to prevent the pitfalls of the
future. That is what Israel is trying to do now and will
continue to insist upon in the future.
So let's move on to the present.
As you may remember under the Oslo interim agreement, the
Palestinians and Israel had certain reciprocal
responsibilities. We believe, by and large, that we have
lived up to our responsibilities, and certainly those
entered into under last year's Hebron Agreement. The
Palestinians have not. I think there can be no dispute that
factually this is so. There may be controversies why they
have not lived up to their commitments, but not about the
facts.
Now, Israel and the United States and by the way, this was a
procedure proposed by President Clinton wanted to create
some sort of procedure like a balance-sheet, or a check list
one column showing Israel's implementations, the other what
the Palestinians ought to do. O.K. Israel accepted that
though there is a built-in asymmetry in this procedure for
while Israel's steps were very tangible, land the
Palestinians' undertakings were mostly intangible promises;
promises many of which have remained unfulfilled ever since
the days of the late Yitzhak Rabin. Nevertheless, we decided
to accept, though it was clear to us that almost every item
in the Palestinian column of this "balansheet" or "check
list" could be reversible, while ours are not. Anyway,
without going, for obvious reasons, into the minutiae of the
matters, we deem imperative, and so I believe does the US,
that the substance and the timing of the Palestinian
responsibilities must include such very significant steps
as, for instance: seriously, effectively combating terrorist
organizations "100 percent effort" as the President has said
not the usual "revolving door" games. And this must include
dismantling terrorist infrastructures which used to be, and
probably still are, thriving in the areas controlled by the
Palestinian Authority. And this would also, of course, have
to include the question how to deal with terrorists or
suspected terrorists. The there is the matter of illegal
weapons not just those which are there now, but also how to
prevent smuggling of additional weapons; there is the matter
of the Palestinian Police Force, not only whose size
contravenes the Oslo agreements, but which for some reason
looks more like an army than a bunch of traffic-wardens;
there is the need for full, genuine, complete bilateral
security cooperation between the sides something the
Palestinians have stopped contrary to "Oslo"; and last but
not least there are two related subjects related not only in
fact, but also in spirit: To nullify, to do away with, to
abolish never mind the terminology the Palestinian charter
which calls for our destruction and whatever anybody may say
or try to explain away the Palestinian side has not been
consistent with its obligation given in the PLO's exchange
of letters with the Government of Israel in September of
1993. That the Palestinians have not lived up to their
commitment in this respect has now been publicly confirmed,
as I understand, by no less a person than Ron Pundak, one of
the principal architects of the "Oslo" agreements. And if I
may be allowed a side remark it is a pity that for a time
our American friends were misled on this that the covenant
had supposedly gone the way of all flesh while in fact, it
has not. Now, one could say: So what, after all, it's only a
piece of paper, or: Arafat may find it difficult to get the
approval of the Palestinian National Council to cancel the
Charter. Maybe, but we are not convinced by these arguments
though if there is progress on the other matters, as I said
before, we might show flexibility with regards to the
procedures of abolishing the covenant. But let me recount to
you something: Last week Sharansky was in town, and you know
his background he said to his American interlocutor: "For me
to believe in peace with someone who doesn't even want, or
is incapable of, annulling a constitution which calls for my
destruction is something I cannot accept." That's also where
the matter of incitement and black-propaganda comes in and
that's another point on the agenda: for what chance is there
for future Jewish and Arab generations to live in peace if
the Palestinian official, and certainly
officially-controlled media, and educators, continue to call
for Jihad, disseminate anti-Semitic propaganda, hail a
holocaust-denier like Garaudy, and tell children about
returning to Jaffa, or Haifa or Acre?
O.K., but what about Israel's further redeployments? It is
here where reciprocity comes into the picture a term we want
and insist to be taken seriously especially in the light of
the past; again I won't go into details, but the principle
of the matter is that there'll be something called a
"timeline" which will spell out exactly what should happen
in week so-and-so, what happens in week so-and-so and so on
and so forth till, to use the example of the balance sheet
once again, the balance sheet balances at the bottom line.
We, and the US, believe that this is a good procedure, or
better to say: the best procedure under the present
circumstances which are not terribly auspicious anyway
because, among other things, insufficient mutual trust.
So that's what the present situation is really all about
but, unfortunately, we haven't gotten around to that yet
maybe we will now but as the Prime Minister said on Friday:
"in order to engage you got to engage."
Now, I won't use examples from the field of sports, and I
don't know anything about tennis anyway except that some
players always seem to be angry at the refereeÉBut, I will
try to spell out, as well as I can, what the situation in
the Palestinian-Israeli talks was last week. Of course, I am
fully aware of the fact that by the time we are finished
here this might change, actually I hope it will change but
that was the situation:
But first I think we should remind ourselves that it is the
Palestinians who broke off the talks I think 16 months ago
and under one pretext or another refused to resume them
until two weeks ago.
Let me just say here that if they, the talks, did start
again, and if, hopefully, they will reach an agreement
neither could have happened, or will happen, without the
facilitation of the US; and all concerned, especially
Secretary Albright, have worked very hard on this. But,
unfortunately facilitation does not always succeed
especially if the sides sometimes draw the wrong conclusions
from even the best-intentioned efforts of the facilitators.
And, while the Israeli Government, and especially the Prime
Minister and the Minister of Defense, have gone out of their
way, not only the "extra mile", but also the "extra
percent", to engage the Palestinian side, to make progress,
to reach an agreement as soon as possible so far this has
been to little avail. I am certain that the Administration
has not been sitting on its hands either but, it still
remains to be seen if there will be concrete results in
moving the talks in the right direction.
The gap, between the sides, if you can even call it a gap,
is as narrow as can be believe me, it could be bridged
within a few days, perhaps even hours. Not to reach
agreement would be a tragedy as it would, undoubtedly have
unfortunate consequences primarily for the Palestinian
people.
I want you to know, that contrary to what you may hear,
Israel did put some concrete proposals on the table even in
the initial meetings headed by Yitzhak Mordechai and Abu-Mazen
and then in subsequent talks of lower-level teams. These
proposals may not have been all the Palestinians wanted but
they were definitely forthcoming proposals. Just to explain
why is the 3% of the territory different from the remaining
10%? and don't get me wrong, also with the 10% Israel would
be taking serious security risks but these 3% are places
which are adjacent to Jewish civilian populations, very
close by or military training grounds and obviously we need
to have some input into what will or will not happen there.
So, we want to fix now who would be responsible for planning
and zoning and how are decisions to be implemented or not to
be implemented. Interestingly, actually, the impression
which Mordechai got in the first meeting was that there was
some give and take but you know what happened after that:
the Palestinians announced that nothing had been achieved,
that the whole thing had broken down and that all they
actually wanted to hear from the Israelis was a "Yes" or
"No" to the US ideas which they, the Palestinians said they
had accepted in principle.
Now, it is not for me to second-guess American Diplomacy but
I believe that I can interpret pretty well what the
Palestinians believe American Diplomacy to be. Believe
wrongly, I should add. In politics in general, perceptions
count for a great deal but especially in the Middle East.
Over the last few months there has been an aura of
atmospheric turbulence in the US-Israeli relationship often
exaggerated by not always completely disinterested parties
here, there, everywhere. The Palestinian perception clearly
was and is erroneously all along, I believe that they just
could sit back and wait whether for Israel to sign on the
dotted lineÉor, witness a major blow-up in the US-Israeli
relationship which is seen by some in the Palestinian camp
as even preferable to an arrangement. None of this, of
course, is going to happen but thiswas, perhaps still is,
the Palestinian perception of some of the statements coming
out of Washington let alone Europe. "So why be flexible?"
they say to themselves. "Why even seriously engage? American
pressure is going to do the job for us." Well, they are
wrong, wrong again as they have been wrong historically on
almost any opportunity to come to agreements with us during
most of this century. More the pity, as not only is Israel
intent on trying to achieve agreements, even though
everybody understands that this would incur difficult
compromises on her part but even more so, as only a
center-right government such as we have today, in spite of a
great many coalition problems, has a chance to make such an
agreement acceptable to a majority of the Israeli people.
Allow me here a short digression: What this in effect
amounts to, and I may be criticized at home for saying this,
is that a Likud-led government would adopt a profound
historical, ideological change of attitude towards the
Palestinians' role in parts of the Land of Israel. This is
not an easy decision to make and I sometimes feel that there
is insufficient understanding, certainly insufficient credit
accorded to Netanyahu in this and other countries in this
respect. Nor, may I add, is there perhaps sufficient
appreciation, even in Israel itself, that, after all, the
decisions which will be made by Netanyahu, or any Israeli
government, in the next few months and years may be the most
fateful for future generations any Israeli leader since
Ben-Gurion had to take.
I have been told that some people around Mr. Arafat may
actually have advised him not to come to agreements with the
Israeli Government under any circumstances as this would
supposedly leave him free to act come May 1999. It does not
and I can only say that I hope he doesn't follow such
foolish advice. Frankly, I think that the Palestinian
perception of the present American initiative is mistaken
also on substance, I mean, America never intended, nor will
it in the future, want to dictate to the sides what they
have to do I refer you to the various recent statements of
all American personalities including the President, the
Secretary, their staffs, their spokespersons it's the two
sides who have to come to an agreement with each other, not
with Washington. There is an American initiative, yes
including some important, pertinent details but only some;
it's like one of these pencil drawings where the colors have
to be put in and it is for the sides to agree on the colors
one could call it the modalities, which are needed to
implement the American initiative. Israel is willing to do
just that, the Palestinians last week said "No". American
Diplomacy, I have no doubt, may and certainly should, now
make a concerted effort to disabuse those erroneous
perceptions on the Palestinian side. Otherwise an important
chance to make progress may be missed once again.
Having said that, I would also like to add that we would
never have been able to make progress towards peace at all,
or make certain decisions nor would the Arab side, not just
the Palestinians, have given much thought to peace in
addition to other factor had it not been for the fact that
1) the US recognizes that what is at stake is the very
security of Israel and the Israeli people; and 2) that the
US also recognizes, and declares, that its commitment to
Israel's security is and will continue to be ironclad. In
this context, although this is not the issue we are talking
about today but America's stated and proven ironclad
commitment to Israel's security gives me an opportunity to
thank this country for what it has done and is doing in this
respect and beyond that, to cite once again the importance
of America's commitment to Israel's qualitative edge lest it
be eroded by military supplies to some of our neighbors.
But to get back to our main subject today No less
significant, perhaps for the chances of achieving agreement
on the "permanent status" will be for America to continue
making it unequivocally clear to the Palestinians that any
unwarranted acts on their part, such as a unilateral
declaration of a Palestinian state, would encounter
America's firm opposition based on its policy, expressed
verbally as well as in writing, that it will not support
such an illegal act by the Palestinians. I know there are
those, perhaps even on both sides, who would welcome Mr.
Arafat disregarding the procedures set out in the agreements
he has signed for opposite reasons, of course but the only
way to determine the exact and agreed status of the areas
which already are, and those which will be controlled by the
Palestinian Authority and the only way to assure that the
Palestinian people residing in these areas will be able to
live and prosper in peace is through negotiations with
Israel not through precipitate unilateral acts. And I shall
not go into the question of the "permanent status" now one
hurdle at a time though, obviously, this is the main issue.
By the way, I understand that my friend Amru Moussa , who
recently spoke at this Institute, said that "normalization"
was an Israeli invention. Maybe it is, I don't know, but in
my view normal relations between countries which are at
peace should be something natural which don't need inventing
by anyone especially talking about Egypt whose great late
visionary leader, President Sadat paid the ultimate price
for battling for peace and for establishing normal relations
with Israel.
Time is running out I mean my lecture, not just peace but
just a few words about some of our other neighbors. I have
read all sorts of unfounded rumors about the Israeli-Syrian
track. All I shall say is that Israel is calling for a
resumption of peace-talks without pre-conditions on the part
of either side. By the way, have you noticed that President
Assad is not totally devoid of a sense of humor when he
recently visited Paris he made a point of praising there
"the values of liberty and equality," which brings me to
Lebanon though the Lebanese, of course, may be forgiven for
not being amused by President Assad's statement about
liberty and, at any rate, I suppose they find it difficult
to understand why, while Israel calls for the implementation
of UN Security Council Resolution 425, which would bring
about a withdrawal of Israeli Forces from Southern Lebanon
which at least some of them supposedly want provided, as
this resolution clearly states, there will be satisfactory
security arrangements the Syrians hold the Lebanese hostage
to their own calculations while some of our and America's
best friends unfortunately support them in this position.
As to Jordan I will only say that it has proved to be a
reliable and genuine partner in peace while all concerned,
including perhaps the US and I know Israel is going to make
greater efforts should do everything in their power to give
the Jordanian people more tangible peace-dividends than they
feel they have received so far.
And I shall have to conclude my remarks on a more somber
note: I realize that an Israeli Ambassador is expected to
say something about last week's Iranian missile test and
there is more to come. We weren't surprised our long time
warnings have been vindicated although we were often accused
of crying wolf. But this is not yet the end of the story and
there will be other tests, probably also of more advanced
missile types. Right now it could be principally Israel and
Turkey which are at risk though not immediately, and anyway,
it is difficulty to say what "right now" means. And, of
course, Saudi-Arabia and other Arab states are also not far
away. A few years down the road, a more advanced generation
of Iranian missiles could easily reach parts of Western
Europe. And there are the other rogue states, Iraq, Libya,
Syria Syria to remind you, is feverishly working on
enhancing its already highly advanced chemical warfare
capabilities. As to Iran, the US deserves a great deal of
praise for taking decisive steps to curtail, even at this
late date, cooperation between Russian companies with Iran
on Missile technology but under no circumstances may anyone
igrecent warnings by the commission headed by Donald
Rumsfeld that most of the Western world, including the
United States, could within a relatively short time be
exposed to the threat of long-range ballistic missiles with
nuclear or biological and I would add chemical warheads
specifically singling out Iran and Iraq. The Israeli, I
should say US-Israeli, "arrow" is certainly one very
important answer. But other answers will be needed too.
Though, Palestinians were dancing on their roofs when Iraqi
Scuds hit Israel, they should perhaps realize now that
unconventional weapons will not easily distinguish between
Zones A, B, or C or between Arab and Jew living in close
proximity so maybe they will realize that perhaps now is the
time to come to an agreement and to present a common front
against the threats facing all of us in the region. |